Thursday, April 19, 2012
Era of Imperialism Discussion Question 2
Imperialism brought an increase in new goods and ideas from around the world. Nations with large colonial holdings saw an increase of wealth that in turn created a desire for goods and services. How did increased financial security in this era help you create new works. Was financial security necessary in order to be an artist? Explain.
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Financial security was very helpful for me. Growing up in wealth already i did not have much trouble not having money. And the world gaining money was also very helpful
ReplyDeleteFrancois can you explain a little more what you mean by "the world gaining money was also helpful"?
ReplyDeleteWell i didnt have to work harder to get a small amount of people to pay a lot, i could get a large number to
DeleteThe countries that i was in the most, London and the United States were very beneficially affected by imperialism. It helped me create new works and perform easier because type writers were cheaper, paper was cheaper, and the ink for the type writer was cheaper. When your country has a financial boost from something say Imperialism, resources in your country are more in stock and therefore cheaper and easier to buy. But the boost in money also helps everything else say cheaper sets, cheaper costumes,well I would say cheaper actors, but people never get cheaper.
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ReplyDeleteI'm starting to wonder Francois me boy if we will be the only ones at dinner. Well at least I will not be alone.
Being an artist gave me financial security! When I moved to California to set up a, 'colony' if you will, it failed. Acting was the only way for me and my family to survive. But because of others financial security I was able to survive. So I would say yes, financial security around the world was essentials for my success.
ReplyDeleteHelena,
DeleteI can relate to how you feel about how your acting was the only way your family survived. My writing career was how I supported my family, as an adult. And I can relate to you when you say that financial security around the world were the essentials for your success because it was the same for me.
But, talent is the most essential thing, yes you do need some money to expand your art.But if you were poor as I WAS but, you have talent that is natural, You can increase your financial security with talent and doing the arts. You have a point arts do give financial security, but my point is you can come from any type of background, and still make it to the top artistically and financially as I did.
ReplyDeleteJohn, I was homeless. If anyone to understand that you can come from any background and still be successful, it's me. I never said talent wasn't essential. But, without financial security, you are nothing but a starving artist. As performers we depend on audiences. If audience members aren't financially secure, they won't make us financially secure.Talent and a good economy is important to be a SUCCESSFUL artist.
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DeleteThere was a butcher who cut his thumb,
When it started to bleed, the blood did come.
I agree with you, Helena. The economy's success greatly impacts our financial security in the performing arts business. You said that you started out without much money. Since you are a very talented actress, you had financial security. Was the struggle to get to the top difficult? If you were not as talented in the arts, do you think that you still would have made as much money as you did?
ReplyDeleteIt definitely was. I had to master the entire English language before I could even begin acting. Then you have to learn how to put the right emotion behind the right word. And the entire acting world is such a hard business to break into. And if I didn't work as hard, or develop my talent, I certainly wouldn't have been as successful as I am today. If I'm not mistaken, you came from money? But you didn't buy your way to top, you worked for it, right? I'm sure you worked as hard as anyone who didn't come from money. *ahem*John*ahem*
ReplyDeleteI admire your hard work, Helena.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct, I came from a wealthy family, but I certainly didn't buy my way to the top. I worked very hard over the years. I trained my voice throughout my entire lifetime. When I was very young, I realized that I wanted to be an opera singer. My parents were both opera singers and they made it clear to me that the only way to be successful in the business was to work hard. Consequently, I was always singing and looking for ways to make my voice more pure and beautiful. Eventually, all my hard work paid off.
I enjoy talking to you, Helena, because we have both worked very hard to achieve success. Its nice to talk to other artist who have worked hard throughout their lives to be successful. You seem to really understand what it is like.
I do girl, i do. Although we are two different artists,from two different backgrounds,we seem to have much in common.
DeleteHello fellow bloggers! I apologize for my absences and lack of discussion. However, I am here now.
ReplyDeleteI do believe that having financial stability was neccessary to be an artist in the time of imperialsm because sometimes, as an individual, you just needed your own personal money to be able to fall back on. I also know that sometimes (from personal experiences) a person while need to be able to have money to be able to get their career "off of the ground." Having financial stability helped me in my career because it allowed me to be able to travel around the world and advertise my writtings. This helped me create new works because I began to see a change in the world. I wrote about how people felt and my point of view on things.
Helena,
ReplyDeleteI admire you. I do have one question, do you think you would have been an actress if you were born with financial security?
Harriet, I agree with you, you need to have something to get you back on your feet.I can relate to you because I traveled a lot and well when I gambled my money away, I needed a country that was financially well off. And well America did that to me and I was able to get back on my feet. And continue acting and play writing.
John,
DeleteSee now we're getting somewhere! I'm, glad you agree with me on something. And I'm also glad that your now see what I was speaking of whenI said that financial security is a must if you plan on beeing in the arts professionally.
I wanted to become a actress because of the war. If my ranch did not fail,i probably wouldn't have picked up acting in America. But acting has always been my true passion. Do you think you would of picked up acting if you were wealthy?
DeleteDearies, I apologize I haven't been saying much this time around. I'm just so distracted by the food! Lovely evening!
ReplyDeleteAnyway, financial security is definitely something an artist would want. Like Harriet said, financial security can give an artist something to fall back on if it were a time of unsuccessful auditions and shows. Financial plans are always needed for starving artists. However, I was never one of those. But I do believe financial security is important in becoming an artist.
Ellen lassie,
ReplyDeleteI would like to add on why financial security is good and somewhat essential to an artists. You need to be able to expand your art. Say opening a theater, opening an art studio, buying new instruments, buying new machines like the type-writer. You could also use money to travel the world, use your art to inspire people. And with this Imperialism, it is easy to find a ship traveling to the place you might want to go.
John,
DeleteI totally agree with what you said. Having financial security is a way to expand your work. I'm glad you brought up the point that you have to have money to be able to provide for yourself. Imperialsm helped a lot of artists get their work "off the ground."
John, I agree with you! Many artists at this dinner event are prime examples of what you said! Take yourself and myself, for example. I opened a new theatre company at the Lyceum Theatre in London during the age of Imperialism. You opened many theatres, I believe, in the United Kingdom. With the help of financial security, we were able to accomplish those things.
ReplyDeleteJohn, I am also happy we're starting to see eye to eye.
I completely agree with your point of view. Since I had financial security, I was able to buy a castle with my own theater inside. I had many recitals and performances in this theater. It was beneficial because I could perform without leaving my own home.
DeleteI'm terribly sorry that i have joined so late. I have been busy working hard on a new composition. As a young child, I wasn't that financially stable. My father worked hard for a living in his privately owned musicians shop. This was the main source of income. As my fellow musicians know, playing and learning an instrument can become rather expensive. This is the reason i was self taught in all of the instruments i knew how to play.
ReplyDeleteJohn, I completely agree with what you have said about financial security being necessary to expand your art. I feel that without the money to support you, you have a small chance of being a successful artist.
Well I was not always a musician. In a time of low income and need I had to work at a cigar factory. I needed the money to be able to tour, of course i did what was nessary and got the money and was able to tour but it was a difficult process. Did anyone else have any financial roadblocks like me? But yes in my case financial security was necessary in order to be an artist.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Helena. With no supporters or fans a artist is nothing. We artist live for our art yes, but to give people the wonderful gift that we love so much.
ReplyDeleteEdmond, I did not have many financial roadblocks. Fortunately, I had enough money to support myself. However, I find your story very interesting. Do you think that it would have been easier to succeed if you had more financial security?
ReplyDeleteEdmond, I am also wondering how the less financially stable life was. I myself always had a decent amount of financial security. I would like to know if you believe that our styles of art are different because of money?
ReplyDeleteEdward,
DeleteI did not start off financially, and I think it took a longer time to get involved and performing in the arts but if you are born financially you could probably get involved sooner. Did you?
I was a middle class person in this time. It was hard for me to start learning new instruments. I couldn't afford a musical mentor so it took me a long time to learn how to play and wright music.
DeleteI have to agree with Edward. I am also curious to know how life was without any kind of financial stability because I always had a great amount of money within my family.
ReplyDeleteYes i would! Having to work at that cigar factory took time that I could have been working and focusing on my carrier! The roadblocks that you did have, were they major ones? Or petty ones?
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Edward, I don't believe our style is different more so our passion.
ReplyDeleteEdmond Dede, did you grow up in a wealthy lifestyle or lower class? Me and my dinner table are having close to the same conversation...
ReplyDeleteNot really, my mother didn't work, and my father job always didn't get the appreciation it deserved. So he didn't always have enough to comfortably support the family.
ReplyDeleteEdmond, I didn't have many financial roadblocks. However, I have many ex-husbands, and I have been forced to rely on my own money over the years. I learned that a person cannot become financially dependent on anyone else, including a husband, because one day they might not be there to support you. My first husband, Henri de Roger de Cahusac, was granted legal separation from me in 1877. However, our divorce was not final until 1885. This was a major financial set back for me. I had to learn to depend on my own money. I married Ernesto Nicolini, an opera singer, a year after my divorce with Henri. Alas, he died from cancer. We fought a lot during our marriage, which resulted in him taking me out of his will. I was left no money from him. This was another financial roadblock for me. Finally, I married my current husband, Baron Rolf Cederstrom. Fortunately, he hasn’t created any financial roadblocks for me.
ReplyDeleteAdelina,
ReplyDeleteDid having multiple husbands have a big impact on your life? And if so how? What struggles did you encounter such as being judged from your family?