SCPA MODERN WORLD HISTORY ARTIST BIOGRAPHY PROJECT 2011-2012
Thursday, April 19, 2012
Industrial Era Discussion Question 3
The Industrial Era was a time of changing societies. How did you use conflict or cooperation to extend your creative process? What ways did that speak to the many differences that were taking place in your world?
I used conflict to extend my creative process, by using the great conflict in my heart and mind about the rise of industry in the market. I am very anti materialistic, so I used my conflict with the industrial revolution as a tool in my poems, many of which contain an underlying, or even flat out theme of anti materialism. I did not feel very cooperative about the industrial era in general, so I purposefully made my poems subtly rebellious. I think that this speaks of the many differences that were taking place in my world in that I was able to protest through my writing that which I didn't believe in. While I did not approve of many aspects of the major changes going on in society due to the industrial revolution, I did like the rise of women's rights, and I am glad that I was able to put my views out to the world.
Ms. Rossetti, I wouldn't say I dissaproved of the changing ways of society. In fact, as I stated in previous question I never really payed much attention to the changing ways of society. I was simply too interested in my work.
Bernard Crusell, I am very interested in your viewpoint on this question. Thank you for joining in this discussion. I must say I am surprised that you did not pay much attention to the changing ways of society. You say that you were too interested in your work, yet I used my work to express my views on the changes in society. I think that conflict and cooperation played a large role in my art, as I used my poetry as my political and social voice. So, you enjoyed using your art as more of an entertainment tool rather than to encourage or discourage anything about the industrial era? How interesting and gratifying, as it seems most artists of our time had strong political views which interfered with their art a great deal. It is nice to hear from someone as easy going as yourself.
I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply, Ms. Rossetti. This question took a lot of thought process for me. Before I give my speech on the matter, though, I would like to point out, Mr. Crussel, that you must've been living under a rock to not be paying attention to any social issues. There were plenty of social issues around this time period that could've influenced your work, such as the American Revolution (which happened during the early part of your lifetime so surely you heard about it). One source of conflict I used to extend my creative process was the whole issue on women's rights. Women were just starting to earn their rights but were still fighting for them. Naturally, because I am a woman, this issue was very prodominant in my life. One of the reasons I was so successful as an artist was because women had earned the right to put their work out there, so naturally, it influenced my work a little bit. My work was very emotional and very much reflected my opinion that women deserved their rights. I'm sure many women listened to my music because of this. Another event that influenced my later works was World War I. It was the first time there had really been a full-scale war between practically all countries. It was a time of trouble and sarrow. Many people were killed which really hit hard with me. It saddened me that people would bring all that death upon themselves. Because I used my music as a way to let out my feelings, naturally, some of the saddness slipped into my music, which is one reason it's so emotional. One way that I think this "spoke" to all the differences in this world was that my music made people stop and reflect for a minute on all the sad things that happen in life. It gets many people thinking about how to prevent such saddness and that we need to spread the message that we all need to just get along. Peace is something I believe is very important and I think my music reflects that idea in many hidden ways. I can't really think of many examples of cooperation that really influenced my work. Just the fact that women were "uniting" to earn their rights and the fact that my music caused people to "unite" with some of their ideas about war and peace. And I'm sorry to all you non-musical folk if not all my explainations make sense.
I have to disagree with you Ms. Beach in your comments to Mr. Crusell. I know many individuals who are so immersed in their arts that they care little for the outside world. While societal influences are many, it is also possible (albeit uncommon) to step outside of the world and be unaware of what is going on around you. I often think of my graffiti students who do nothing but draw letters with markers. I could be doing cartwheels with birds tied to my feet and they wouldn't notice but they make lovely pieces of art. Here is a question for you to consider: How does the society in which you live influence or inform your art work?
That’s really neat Christina Rossetti how you used woman’s rights as a key aspect to your work. I too use this conflict to extend my creative processes. I was one of the first female actresses of my time. Also I made sure to play characters that for the most part only portrayed woman as strong and powerful or kind and clever instead of meek and helpless. For example I played the role of the great heroine Amenaide in Voltaire's Tancrède. The society in which we live helps our art to keep adapting to things that change it. For example play writes such as Voltaire change and adapt their work due to the issues at hand in the world. As tensions rise the more depth the work has due to the emotions of both anger and passion! As artists when we feel an emotion we have the innate instinct to convey it immediately to our audience. Personally when something in society makes me upset I take that emotion and contribute it to my characters so that I can connect with the audience appropriately.
I'm so sorry for it taking so long for me to reply, but, just like Ms. Beach it took a lot for me to process this qestion. I did figure out though, like Mr. Crusell I guess I never really noticed the outside world when I was working. I just had people telling me what to do and I did it. I honestly have absolutly no idea how my work influenced the outside world. I am sure it did have an impact though with what I was singing and how people could relate to it.
Also Ms. Beach, I am not really able to relate to your struggle for womans rights. As I am a man you see. To answer your question Ms. Andreadis, as you know already I was so into my work to really pay attention to the world around me. What influenced my work were my teachers. Especially my music theory teacher.
It is interesting Rachel Felix, to hear from an actress who allowed her political and social views to influence her work. When I think of artists using their work to make a political or social statement, I generally think of writers or composers of some sort who designed their own work. I like that as an actress you were able to allow your beliefs to influence the roles that you played. I also find it interesting that you contributed emotions that you were feeling to your character, and used your own sentiment for your character to connect to the audience. It is very neat that you as an actress were able to use your art that way.
To answer your question Ms. Andreadis, I think that it depends on a couple of different aspects, how the society in which you live impacts your art. For one thing, it depends on you as a person, and whether you are a social or political activist. For another, it depends on how you as an artist view your art. Some artists such as Jenny Lind, and Bernard Crusell, were too immersed in their art to notice the outside world at all, let alone allow society to impact their art. Still other artists, though no one of this mind set has yet spoken out, may have cared about society and politics, but not allowed their opinions to influence their artistic work. Others, such as my self or Amy Beach, allowed society to have a great impact on our art, and even used our art as our social and political voices. None of these ways are wrong, and variety is necessary in order to have a vast array of different types of art, which I think is a vital aspect of art.
Well, I suppose I see your point, Ms. Andreadis and Mr. Carter. Although, you'd have to be pretty wrapped up in your work not to see a single thing going on around you. (By the way, Ms. Andreadis, that would be a very interesting sight to see you doing cartwheels with birds tied to your feet.) I'd have to say I agree with Ms. Rossetti about your work, Ms. Felix. It is, indeed, very interesting to see an actress allow her beliefs to influence the roles she plays since an actress doesn't usually write the play. To answer your question, Ms. Andreadis, as I explained earlier, the whole issue of women's rights was a big influence on my work. Because of the fact that I was still fighting for many of my rights and the fact that I used my music as a way to let out my emotions, my music relected my feelings on many issues in society, including womens rights.
Wow, haha sorry it's taken me so long to answer this as well, I was in ways afraid of this question because I didn't know how to answer it without observing others answers. But I much like Mr.Crusell was very immersed in my work as well. Also I traveled so much all the time and was from Naples, back to France, to Italy and back constantly. So it's not that I didnt care, I was simply unaware. Therefore it didn't extend or really effect my creative process.
Why don't we direct this conversation else where. I want to know how does your art put an influence on others in the in the world? How can we as an artist put our mark on other people and how can we take our struggles as artists and relate them to the struggles of everyday?
One of the main ways my art influences people is that it gets them to think. Music doesn't always have a spelled out message in it so you have to think about it.
I honestly cannot say how my art effects people who see it. I am sure they enjoy it or else they would not keep coming back! I hope my work gets them out of their own body for a bit so they can feel as if they potray the character they are watching! I know if that were the case for me that is exactly how I would feel!
I am curious to know what are the things that impact the people who come back to see you because they enjoy your work. Specificaicly what are the things that motivate the viewers to connect your character to their daily lives? What are the things that are so good about and artist that make an audiance want to return and see the same artist at work again? Personially I think it is skill, intlect, passsion, and drive. What makes people shout that extra BRAVO! at a performance that gives you that rush of heart warming joy?
I used cooperation to extend my creative process. It really is what my area of the arts revolves around. I cooperate with what society sees as appropriate and show you how to present yourself as such . Fashion is always changing. I adapted to the differences taking place in my era so my readers do not get caught up in any fads or such and instruct them on how to dress and act with taste.
I agree with Maria Malibran. I as so very immersed in my work. I have no room to think about the outside world. I do realize that I did travel, but I had to keep focused. If I didn't, I may loose focus in the character I was trying to portray, and bore the audience. I am so very sorry I haven't commented earlier. I had to think very hard on this question.
Hello, my name is Harriet Beecher Stowe and I am from another dinner table called Imperialsm. I was just curious to know how the Industiral era had an affect on your mind state ( how you thought about things and what you stood for)about life since you had experienced multiple events throughout your lives.
Personally I stand greatly for being passionate about things that I care about such as being successful and making an impact on every day people in the world. The way I do this is through my characters which take great time to prepare as dig into their thoughts, emotions, and fears. I think there is a character written out there for practically every person in the world. Plays represent all kinds of situations that people stand for because there is so many different ways and outlooks on life. Our society is faced with much loss and much gain including loss and gain of a thriving economy. This is a series of events that impacts how we feel about the world. The more emotions we have the more our art is affected by our emotions. With every new event or situation posed at hand the more new and inexperienced emotions we feel. It is our job (as I said before in an earlier comment) as artists to express them immediately. This is because we have the power and duty as artists to take that stand!
Thanks you foe agreeing Ms.Elsser! But hello there Ms.Stowe, thank you for visiting by the way, and I really like your question. It makes me really think hard. Because although you all are well aware that I feel as if my era had really not much effect on me. Except for te rules that were suddenly changing. Yet even though the only rules that struck me were the ones invovling my passion my art. Now I thought very, very hard about this question, eem though my answer isnt about to show that. The way my era effected the way I thought. Was it truly didn't. Atleast not as an era. My life was music from birth. And always will be. Now the one thing the era I guess did do is it made me experience how hard a marriage is. Because my first there were a lot of finacial issuses. That besides the fact I never could've loved him like my husband now. It really took things down. It frustrated me, but as soon would do an opera all that would fade away. So as an era it dis not effect my thoughts, and really not at all what I stand for.
Also just heading back to your input Ms.Andreadis. The fact that I agree with it completely, very very well said. I'm also surprised you acknowledged graffiti a s making lovely pieces of art. Because that's how I consider it, and simply a lot of one minded, on sides people do not feel the same. But it's been great heading from everyone. Didn't know I had so much inncommon and out of common with you all! Hahaha
I used conflict to extend my creative process, by using the great conflict in my heart and mind about the rise of industry in the market. I am very anti materialistic, so I used my conflict with the industrial revolution as a tool in my poems, many of which contain an underlying, or even flat out theme of anti materialism. I did not feel very cooperative about the industrial era in general, so I purposefully made my poems subtly rebellious. I think that this speaks of the many differences that were taking place in my world in that I was able to protest through my writing that which I didn't believe in. While I did not approve of many aspects of the major changes going on in society due to the industrial revolution, I did like the rise of women's rights, and I am glad that I was able to put my views out to the world.
ReplyDeleteI would love to hear what some other artists from the industrial era think about this question. If anyone else has an opinion, please offer it!
ReplyDeleteMs. Rossetti, I wouldn't say I dissaproved of the changing ways of society. In fact, as I stated in previous question I never really payed much attention to the changing ways of society. I was simply too interested in my work.
ReplyDeleteBernard Crusell, I am very interested in your viewpoint on this question. Thank you for joining in this discussion. I must say I am surprised that you did not pay much attention to the changing ways of society. You say that you were too interested in your work, yet I used my work to express my views on the changes in society. I think that conflict and cooperation played a large role in my art, as I used my poetry as my political and social voice. So, you enjoyed using your art as more of an entertainment tool rather than to encourage or discourage anything about the industrial era? How interesting and gratifying, as it seems most artists of our time had strong political views which interfered with their art a great deal. It is nice to hear from someone as easy going as yourself.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply, Ms. Rossetti. This question took a lot of thought process for me. Before I give my speech on the matter, though, I would like to point out, Mr. Crussel, that you must've been living under a rock to not be paying attention to any social issues. There were plenty of social issues around this time period that could've influenced your work, such as the American Revolution (which happened during the early part of your lifetime so surely you heard about it). One source of conflict I used to extend my creative process was the whole issue on women's rights. Women were just starting to earn their rights but were still fighting for them. Naturally, because I am a woman, this issue was very prodominant in my life. One of the reasons I was so successful as an artist was because women had earned the right to put their work out there, so naturally, it influenced my work a little bit. My work was very emotional and very much reflected my opinion that women deserved their rights. I'm sure many women listened to my music because of this.
ReplyDeleteAnother event that influenced my later works was World War I. It was the first time there had really been a full-scale war between practically all countries. It was a time of trouble and sarrow. Many people were killed which really hit hard with me. It saddened me that people would bring all that death upon themselves. Because I used my music as a way to let out my feelings, naturally, some of the saddness slipped into my music, which is one reason it's so emotional. One way that I think this "spoke" to all the differences in this world was that my music made people stop and reflect for a minute on all the sad things that happen in life. It gets many people thinking about how to prevent such saddness and that we need to spread the message that we all need to just get along. Peace is something I believe is very important and I think my music reflects that idea in many hidden ways.
I can't really think of many examples of cooperation that really influenced my work. Just the fact that women were "uniting" to earn their rights and the fact that my music caused people to "unite" with some of their ideas about war and peace. And I'm sorry to all you non-musical folk if not all my explainations make sense.
I have to disagree with you Ms. Beach in your comments to Mr. Crusell. I know many individuals who are so immersed in their arts that they care little for the outside world. While societal influences are many, it is also possible (albeit uncommon) to step outside of the world and be unaware of what is going on around you. I often think of my graffiti students who do nothing but draw letters with markers. I could be doing cartwheels with birds tied to my feet and they wouldn't notice but they make lovely pieces of art.
ReplyDeleteHere is a question for you to consider: How does the society in which you live influence or inform your art work?
That’s really neat Christina Rossetti how you used woman’s rights as a key aspect to your work. I too use this conflict to extend my creative processes. I was one of the first female actresses of my time. Also I made sure to play characters that for the most part only portrayed woman as strong and powerful or kind and clever instead of meek and helpless. For example I played the role of the great heroine Amenaide in Voltaire's Tancrède. The society in which we live helps our art to keep adapting to things that change it. For example play writes such as Voltaire change and adapt their work due to the issues at hand in the world. As tensions rise the more depth the work has due to the emotions of both anger and passion! As artists when we feel an emotion we have the innate instinct to convey it immediately to our audience. Personally when something in society makes me upset I take that emotion and contribute it to my characters so that I can connect with the audience appropriately.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry for it taking so long for me to reply, but, just like Ms. Beach it took a lot for me to process this qestion. I did figure out though, like Mr. Crusell I guess I never really noticed the outside world when I was working. I just had people telling me what to do and I did it. I honestly have absolutly no idea how my work influenced the outside world. I am sure it did have an impact though with what I was singing and how people could relate to it.
ReplyDeleteMs. Beach I was not "living under a rock" I was simply (like Ms. Andreadis has stated) so immersed into my work.
ReplyDeleteAlso Ms. Beach, I am not really able to relate to your struggle for womans rights. As I am a man you see. To answer your question Ms. Andreadis, as you know already I was so into my work to really pay attention to the world around me. What influenced my work were my teachers. Especially my music theory teacher.
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting Rachel Felix, to hear from an actress who allowed her political and social views to influence her work. When I think of artists using their work to make a political or social statement, I generally think of writers or composers of some sort who designed their own work. I like that as an actress you were able to allow your beliefs to influence the roles that you played. I also find it interesting that you contributed emotions that you were feeling to your character, and used your own sentiment for your character to connect to the audience. It is very neat that you as an actress were able to use your art that way.
ReplyDeleteTo answer your question Ms. Andreadis, I think that it depends on a couple of different aspects, how the society in which you live impacts your art. For one thing, it depends on you as a person, and whether you are a social or political activist. For another, it depends on how you as an artist view your art. Some artists such as Jenny Lind, and Bernard Crusell, were too immersed in their art to notice the outside world at all, let alone allow society to impact their art. Still other artists, though no one of this mind set has yet spoken out, may have cared about society and politics, but not allowed their opinions to influence their artistic work. Others, such as my self or Amy Beach, allowed society to have a great impact on our art, and even used our art as our social and political voices. None of these ways are wrong, and variety is necessary in order to have a vast array of different types of art, which I think is a vital aspect of art.
ReplyDeleteWell, I suppose I see your point, Ms. Andreadis and Mr. Carter. Although, you'd have to be pretty wrapped up in your work not to see a single thing going on around you. (By the way, Ms. Andreadis, that would be a very interesting sight to see you doing cartwheels with birds tied to your feet.)
ReplyDeleteI'd have to say I agree with Ms. Rossetti about your work, Ms. Felix. It is, indeed, very interesting to see an actress allow her beliefs to influence the roles she plays since an actress doesn't usually write the play.
To answer your question, Ms. Andreadis, as I explained earlier, the whole issue of women's rights was a big influence on my work. Because of the fact that I was still fighting for many of my rights and the fact that I used my music as a way to let out my emotions, my music relected my feelings on many issues in society, including womens rights.
Mr. Crusell*
DeleteOh, I'm sorry. I was thinking about the new piece I'm composing and wasn't paying attention. My apologies, Mr. Crusell.
ReplyDeleteWow, haha sorry it's taken me so long to answer this as well, I was in ways afraid of this question because I didn't know how to answer it without observing others answers. But I much like Mr.Crusell was very immersed in my work as well. Also I traveled so much all the time and was from Naples, back to France, to Italy and back constantly. So it's not that I didnt care, I was simply unaware. Therefore it didn't extend or really effect my creative process.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't we direct this conversation else where. I want to know how does your art put an influence on others in the in the world? How can we as an artist put our mark on other people and how can we take our struggles as artists and relate them to the struggles of everyday?
ReplyDeleteOne of the main ways my art influences people is that it gets them to think. Music doesn't always have a spelled out message in it so you have to think about it.
ReplyDeleteI honestly cannot say how my art effects people who see it. I am sure they enjoy it or else they would not keep coming back! I hope my work gets them out of their own body for a bit so they can feel as if they potray the character they are watching! I know if that were the case for me that is exactly how I would feel!
ReplyDeleteI am curious to know what are the things that impact the people who come back to see you because they enjoy your work. Specificaicly what are the things that motivate the viewers to connect your character to their daily lives? What are the things that are so good about and artist that make an audiance want to return and see the same artist at work again? Personially I think it is skill, intlect, passsion, and drive. What makes people shout that extra BRAVO! at a performance that gives you that rush of heart warming joy?
DeleteI used cooperation to extend my creative process. It really is what my area of the arts revolves around. I cooperate with what society sees as appropriate and show you how to present yourself as such . Fashion is always changing. I adapted to the differences taking place in my era so my readers do not get caught up in any fads or such and instruct them on how to dress and act with taste.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Maria Malibran. I as so very immersed in my work. I have no room to think about the outside world. I do realize that I did travel, but I had to keep focused. If I didn't, I may loose focus in the character I was trying to portray, and bore the audience. I am so very sorry I haven't commented earlier. I had to think very hard on this question.
ReplyDeleteHello, my name is Harriet Beecher Stowe and I am from another dinner table called Imperialsm. I was just curious to know how the Industiral era had an affect on your mind state ( how you thought about things and what you stood for)about life since you had experienced multiple events throughout your lives.
ReplyDeletePersonally I stand greatly for being passionate about things that I care about such as being successful and making an impact on every day people in the world. The way I do this is through my characters which take great time to prepare as dig into their thoughts, emotions, and fears. I think there is a character written out there for practically every person in the world. Plays represent all kinds of situations that people stand for because there is so many different ways and outlooks on life. Our society is faced with much loss and much gain including loss and gain of a thriving economy. This is a series of events that impacts how we feel about the world. The more emotions we have the more our art is affected by our emotions. With every new event or situation posed at hand the more new and inexperienced emotions we feel. It is our job (as I said before in an earlier comment) as artists to express them immediately. This is because we have the power and duty as artists to take that stand!
ReplyDeleteThanks you foe agreeing Ms.Elsser! But hello there Ms.Stowe, thank you for visiting by the way, and I really like your question. It makes me really think hard. Because although you all are well aware that I feel as if my era had really not much effect on me. Except for te rules that were suddenly changing. Yet even though the only rules that struck me were the ones invovling my passion my art. Now I thought very, very hard about this question, eem though my answer isnt about to show that. The way my era effected the way I thought. Was it truly didn't. Atleast not as an era. My life was music from birth. And always will be. Now the one thing the era I guess did do is it made me experience how hard a marriage is. Because my first there were a lot of finacial issuses. That besides the fact I never could've loved him like my husband now. It really took things down. It frustrated me, but as soon would do an opera all that would fade away. So as an era it dis not effect my thoughts, and really not at all what I stand for.
ReplyDeleteAlso just heading back to your input Ms.Andreadis. The fact that I agree with it completely, very very well said. I'm also surprised you acknowledged graffiti a s making lovely pieces of art. Because that's how I consider it, and simply a lot of one minded, on sides people do not feel the same. But it's been great heading from everyone. Didn't know I had so much inncommon and out of common with you all! Hahaha
ReplyDelete